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...is that Hollywood thinks that science fiction equals horror, which it's not. I find it really irritating when they make a movie (like Event Horizon) or a show (like Threshold, which debuts tonight on NBC), sell it to us as science fiction, and it ends up being more of a horror flick than anything else. I don't know why it irritates me so much, but it does. I will concede that an SF/horror movie like Alien works, but that's because we know it's a horror movie based in an SF world. The X-Files worked as a tv show because it was a mystery show based in an SF world. But I am always let down when I see something SF that piques my interest only to be disgusted by the horror plotline.

Why am I annoyed by this? Well, partly because there are so few SF movies and shows out there, compared to insane number of sitcoms and dramedies and reality shows and biopics and mystery movies out there. Not that I don't like those genres, but when I see the trailer for an SF movie or tv show, I'm excited. Finally, something I'd be interested in watching! Not that I don't like the horror genre, but it just burns me when they call it SF. Let's say it all together now: SCIENCE FICTION IS NOT HORROR! HORROR IS NOT SCIENCE FICTION! THEY'RE TWO SEPARATE GENRES!

(I know some of you will contest this, maybe call horror a subgenre of SF, and perhaps it is, but please--they're most decidedly NOT the same thing. Asimov is not horror, and King, though some of his stuff may be fantasy like the Dark Tower series, is not science fiction!!)

Maybe I'm jumping the gun and not giving Threshold a chance (a review of it was what made me post this). It does sound interesting, to say the least. If I remember to watch it tonight, I will. But I'm just hoping that I'm not let down. I'm expecting a good SF thriller, not an X-Files-meets-horror thing.

But please, for the love of Pete, I beg of you, Hollywood--stop shilling us horror movies and shows masked as SF!!!

[/end rant]

Date: 2005-09-16 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmalyon.livejournal.com
I think you need to fill the Sci Fi Channel in o this, they show a LOT of horror films.....

Date: 2005-09-16 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empress-schwa.livejournal.com
I'm not so sure about that.

Does Mansquito really qualify as horror?

Date: 2005-09-16 03:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joncwriter.livejournal.com
I think the question is, does Mansquito really qualify as anything? ;)

Date: 2005-09-16 03:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empress-schwa.livejournal.com
I didn't see it, but I'm sure it could qualify as comedy!

The shark movies they show certainly do!

Date: 2005-09-16 04:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmalyon.livejournal.com
In the past they have shown the "Halloween" series, the "Friday the 13th", and things of that nature.

Date: 2005-09-16 01:16 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] head58.livejournal.com
Serenity is not horror. I mean, it's scary in parts, but not horror.

Date: 2005-09-16 01:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joncwriter.livejournal.com
See, with a show like that, it makes sense. It is SF because it was written to be SF. :)

Date: 2005-09-16 03:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empress-schwa.livejournal.com
You said "Event Horizon."

Now all I can think of is the line that [livejournal.com profile] mekkasimian and I use to mock that movie.

"Pure... chaos. Pure... evil."

I'm so glad we saw it at a free screening.

We missed the 2 hour pilot of Threshold. It conflicted with Stargate and Battlestar Galactica and I'd rather see those sooner rather than later. Besides, it didn't look very promising at all.

Date: 2005-09-16 03:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joncwriter.livejournal.com
See, this the thing about "Event Horizon"...it was so obviously a take-off of Stanislaw Lem's "Polaris", only the hallucinations of Polaris were exchanged for the schlock horror of EH. That's why I hated that one...it had promise, but they dumbed it down so much it was horrible.

On the other hand, I haven't seen Polaris (the original or the George Clooney one that came out a few years back) so I'm not sure how that one played out...but still, Polaris as a book worked because it was so obviously SF.

Date: 2005-09-16 04:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmalyon.livejournal.com
You mean Solaris, sweetie.

Date: 2005-09-16 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] joncwriter.livejournal.com
Yeah, that's what I meant. :p

Date: 2005-09-17 02:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] animated-max.livejournal.com
Solaris wasn't SF. SF is never that boring.

Date: 2005-09-17 02:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] emmalyon.livejournal.com
Solaris was "let me stare at my navel for a looooong time and see if anything happens!".

Date: 2005-09-16 03:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoticmoth.livejournal.com
It's called marketing to the masses.

I think the vast majority of people view pure sci-fi as something they are not interested in, but if it has a mystery/action/horror theme they are more willing.



Date: 2005-09-16 03:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] empress-schwa.livejournal.com
Good point!

Sci fi can make you think! That's bad. Who wants to think? Thinking bad. Drooling in front of flickering box good!

Think bad.
Drool good.

Date: 2005-09-16 03:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chaoticmoth.livejournal.com
Apparently my 6-month old daughter has your philosophy down pat. She is the queen of drool right now, and goes practically comatose when the tv is on if she can see it. :)

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